28 April 2007 @ 04:47 pm
True Feminism = Pro-Life  
Yet more evidence that being a true feminist means that you have a pro-life stance. (According to the beliefs of those who forged the way for we women to have the rights we now have.)
Early feminist Eliza Bisbee Duffey, writing about abortion in “The Limitation of Offspring” chapter of her 1876 book The Relations of the Sexes:

After a child is, no one has a right to tamper with its existence…. [When people] talk about children having a right to be born…. I mean that no one has a right to jeopardize a life which has already begun ever so brief an existence…. My meaning shuts at once and forever the door of abortion….

Abortion, intentionally accomplished, is criminal in the first degree, and should be regarded as murder. Yet women have been taught to look lightly on this offence, and to consider it perfectly justifiable up to the period of quickening. “The embryo has no life before that period,” they will say in justification of the act. I have even heard a woman, who acknowledged to several successful abortions, accomplished by her own hands upon herself, say, “Why, there is no harm in it, any more than in drowning a blind kitten. It is nothing better than a kitten, before it is born.” I was a young girl myself when I heard this, and I accepted the statement as a true one. Nor did I dream of questioning it, until, in later years, I became thoroughly acquainted with sexual physiology, and comprehended the wonderful economy of nature in the generation and development of the human germ.

The act of abortion which I had hitherto regarded as a trivial thing, at once became in my eyes the grossest misdemeanor—nay, the most aggravated crime. Being guided by this experience, I judge that this offence is perpetrated by women who are totally ignorant of the laws of their being. Consequently, the surest preventative against this crime will be a thorough teaching to women, even before marriage, of the physiology, hygiene, duties and obligations of maternity….

From the moment of conception, the embryo is a living thing, leading a distinct, separate existence from the mother, though closely bound to her…. From almost the earliest stage, the form of the future being is indicated, and it has separate heart-beats, distinctly perceptible through the intervening tissues of the mother’s body, which cover it. It is a human being to all intents and purposes. The period called quickening
is a merely fictitious period, which does not indicate the first motion of the embryo. These first motions are not usually detected… until they have acquired considerable force.

Nature has put this little creature—this small man or woman, as yet all undeveloped—in a place of seeming security, and has placed every guard around it to keep it safely until the hour shall come when it is fully prepared to make a complete change in its mode of existence. If by intent or accident it is disturbed before that period, the whole of nature’s plans are thwarted, and nothing is in readiness…. Natural parturation
may have its perils, but unnatural parturation slays its hundreds where that slays one. Yet young married women consider [induced] miscarriage a trifling affair!

….It is a sin against nature…. And it is a crime in the fullest extent of the term, because it is murder ….
But no; I must not be too hard upon all these unwomanly women. Their ignorance must be held responsible for their sins. And men must share the responsibility too….

I have already said that knowledge among women will do much towards decreasing this crime. Do not be content to tell women it is wrong, and then stop there. Women are impatient of being treated like children, or like unreasoning beings; nor do they like to be dictated to. Tell them the how and the why of the whole matter, and they will discover the wrong themselves, and feel the full force of it, far more than they ever can by taking it merely on the say-so of men.

Then the laws which are already upon our statute books should be strictly enforced…. And husbands and seducers should be made to share the punishment as accessories to the crime….
Not only ever maker, advertiser and seller of patent medicines, warranted to “remove female obstructions,” should be subjected to prosecution and punishment, but every publisher who prints an advertisement of this sort should be held equally guilty. Community will not be injured in the least by the suppression of these advertisements; for physicians of every shade of practice will sustain me in declaring that they do harm and harm only to women…. [T]heir real intent is for the procurement of abortion, and so everybody knows.



 
 
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[identity profile] cherishthepast.livejournal.com on April 28th, 2007 09:15 pm (UTC)
Amazing that this was written in 1876. It could just as easily have been written today. Sadly, though, probably not by a prominent feminist.

You'd think that people who are so outspoken about women's rights wouldn't support the murder of millions of unborn women...
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[identity profile] songofsummer.livejournal.com on April 28th, 2007 09:46 pm (UTC)
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Well said. May God help us to educate the younger generation so that they have a different vision than the current one.

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[identity profile] dragonclouds.livejournal.com on April 28th, 2007 09:58 pm (UTC)
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You bring up some interesting points. And I agree with everything you've said.

I'm beginning to be completely against abortion UNLESS the baby puts the mother at risk/it occured due to rape/the child is disabled to the point that it will not lead any kind of a life.

My brother, a doctor, was talking about abortion lately (because my other brother is a git and said that all disabled babies should be aborted. He also said the same about ginger babies because I'm ginger and he's mean, lol) and said that the law on abortion is something that is written one way and practised another. It's all too easy for a woman to say she'd be psychologically affected by her child. And perhaps if the law was changed then some women would pretend that they had been raped. There are people in this world who would say that. There may even be people who have.
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[identity profile] modernelegance.livejournal.com on April 28th, 2007 10:08 pm (UTC)
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Well in America, babies aborted because of rape/defects/life threatening the mother is less than 3%!! Even if they were to limit abortions for those reason even in those cases I cannot personally justify abortions because God can use any disabled child for good and why punish them for something they're not responsible for it. It's not their fault that their mother took cocaine and they are now scarred for life, or that their mother was brutally raped. In cases of rape I advocate for adoption. People say the "mother will remember and be horrified every time she sees the child" Well adoption solves that problem without committing murder. Two wrongs do not make a right, and the rape is traumatizing, but why murder a child?
As for if the mother's life is in danger, I have already lived my life, why not give life to my child? (The greatest act of love is giving your life for someone else...)

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[identity profile] dragonclouds.livejournal.com on April 28th, 2007 10:35 pm (UTC)
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But with rape being the cause of pregnancy, the pregnancy itself would be terrible for the mother. I cannot imagine what it would be like to try forget something so terrible, yet be reminded every waking moment by something that was the result of this attack growing inside. Although I think, if I was raped, I'd seek IMMEDIATE medical help. Of course that's easier said than done. I'm not sure.

In a lot of cases, when a mum's life is in danger, the child's is also. Doesn't it make more sense to save the mother than to put them both at risk? Personally, if I was pregnant and there was a good chance that I would die due to it, I would consider abortion. Of course I'd pray about it and talk to my husband about it but I'd definitely be favouring abortion. It would be a difficult decision, I'm sure, though.

Really though, rather than any laws being changed, I think that people need to be more educated about such things. More money needs to be poured into the area of sexual health - I think it's a stupid figure like 1 in 3 young people aged 16-25 in the UK has or has had Chlamydia. I think it ought to be easier for people of all ages to get free contraception.
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[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/lady_jane_grey_/ on April 29th, 2007 03:05 am (UTC)
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My 5th grade teacher told us a story that happened to her that has stuck with me and makes me against any reason for abortion. She was pregnant and she was told that she probably wouldn't live through the pregnancy. She was given the option of an abortion, and everyone seemed sympathetic about it. However, she chose not to have an abortion. Her reasoning was this: God allowed her to become pregnant, and it wasn't her place to go against something He had done. She had faith that His will would be done with this pregnancy, and so she stayed with it. She lived and her son lived. She gave control to God.

So I believe as Christians, we should be against abortion of any kinds. God creates life, and who are we to take that away? Pregnancy can sort of be an analogy to life: there are ups and downs and lots of times when it seems okay to jump ship. God lets things happen because He has a bigger plan and we should help Him see His plan through.

Anyway, just thought I'd put my two cents in there :P
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[identity profile] modernelegance.livejournal.com on April 28th, 2007 10:16 pm (UTC)
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I've seen that icon as well and it ticks me off every time. I've ranted about the same things you've said even to those who believe in abortion and it falls on deaf ears even though it is so LOGICAL! I mean babies and their mothers can have different BLOOD TYPES! That does not mean that it's "your body"...there's even a disease that proves the existance that babies are not really "apart" of the mother.
I think it boils down to selfishness (as do most sins), the mother does not have to deal with this "inconvienence" and she is not prepared to, so why not kill it? It makes the "problem" go away...until their conscience gets ahold of them and many women who have had abortions suffer with depression.
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[identity profile] missbusylizzie.livejournal.com on May 2nd, 2007 05:44 am (UTC)
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I vaguely have the impression of seeing before a picture of a fetus, with the caption "Keep your laws off my body." ;D So, it's the same phrase the pro-choicers use, but twisted to be pro-life.
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[identity profile] dragonclouds.livejournal.com on April 28th, 2007 10:08 pm (UTC)
I'm really becoming quite interested in early feminism - generally a lot earlier than that, actually. Particularly Mary Wollstonecraft who wrote books on the subject in the late 18th century. She believed that girls should be educated the same as their brothers, and be allowed to roam the countryside, play out and be free, wild creatures the way that young boys are.

But all these early feminists, whatever their shortcomings, they all loved and valued children. They were all 'women'. They wished to be viewed as intellectual equals and not to be domineered by men which is a woman's right. But they did not try to wear the trousers, they didn't behave like men. They just had clear minds and stood up for their rights.

I don't really know what the point of my comment is, I just wished to share that, really.
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[identity profile] modernelegance.livejournal.com on April 28th, 2007 10:09 pm (UTC)
I have never heard of Mary Wollstonecraft so I am going to have to check her out! If anything that was the reason for your comment lol. :p (To tell me about someone else!)
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[identity profile] mashena.livejournal.com on April 29th, 2007 12:51 pm (UTC)
her daughter wrote Frankenstein - which can be viewed as a large metaphor for the feminist movement at the time - - lots of issues regarding equality, eduation, etc.


that's a great quote. I'm 100% pro-life. The main pro-choice argument I've heard against this is "Pregnancy often causes medical issues in the mother." And - it does, but I'm just like "Get over yourself. Deal with it. Prevent pregnancy if you don't want to deal with the 'mediacl issues' that could result from it."
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